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My Python application currently uses the python-memcached API to set and get objects in memcached. This API uses Python's native pickle module to serialize and de-serialize Python objects.

This API makes it simple and fast to store nested Python lists, dictionaries and tuples in memcached, and reading these objects back into the application is completely transparent -- it just works.

But I don't want to be limited to using Python exclusively, and if all the memcached objects are serialized with pickle, then clients written in other languages won't work.

Here are the cross-platform serialization options I've considered:

  1. XML - the main benefit is that it's human-readable, but that's not important in this application. XML also takes a lot space, and it's expensive to parse.

  2. JSON - seems like a good cross-platform standard, but I'm not sure it retains the character of object types when read back from memcached. For example, according to this post tuples are transformed into lists when using simplejson; also, it seems like adding elements to the JSON structure could break code written to the old structure

  3. Google Protocol Buffers - I'm really interested in this because it seems very fast and compact -- at least 10 times smaller and faster than XML; it's not human-readable, but that's not important for this app; and it seems designed to support growing the structure without breaking old code

Considering the priorities for this app, what's the ideal object serialization method for memcached?

  1. Cross-platform support (Python, Java, C#, C++, Ruby, Perl)

  2. Handling nested data structures

  3. Fast serialization/de-serialization

  4. Minimum memory footprint

  5. Flexibility to change structure without breaking old code
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Solution 2

I tried several methods and settled on compressed JSON as the best balance between speed and memory footprint. Python's native Pickle function is slightly faster, but the resulting objects can't be used with non-Python clients.

I'm seeing 3:1 compression so all the data fits in memcache and the app gets sub-10ms response times including page rendering.

Here's a comparison of JSON, Thrift, Protocol Buffers and YAML, with and without compression:

http://bouncybouncy.net/ramblings/posts/more_on_json_vs_thrift_and_protocol_buffers/

Looks like this test got the same results I did with compressed JSON. Since I don't need to pre-define each structure, this seems like the fastest and smallest cross-platform answer.

OTHER TIPS

One major consideration is "do you want to have to specify each structure definition"?

If you are OK with that, then you could take a look at:

  1. Protocol Buffers - http://code.google.com/apis/protocolbuffers/docs/overview.html
  2. Thrift - http://developers.facebook.com/thrift/ (more geared toward services)

Both of these solutions require supporting files to define each data structure.


If you would prefer not to incur the developer overhead of pre-defining each structure, then take a look at:

  1. JSON (via python cjson, and native PHP json). Both are really really fast if you don't need to transmit binary content (such as images, etc...).
  2. Yet Another Markup Language @ http://www.yaml.org/. Also really fast if you get the right library.

However, I believe that both of these have had issues with transporting binary content, which is why they were ruled out for our usage. Note: YAML may have good binary support, you will have to check the client libraries -- see here: http://yaml.org/type/binary.html


At our company, we rolled our own library (Extruct) for cross-language serialization with binary support. We currently have (decently) fast implementations in Python and PHP, although it isn't very human readable due to using base64 on all the strings (binary support). Eventually we will port them to C and use more standard encoding.

Dynamic languages like PHP and Python get really slow if you have too many iterations in a loop or have to look at each character. C on the other hand shines at such operations.

If you'd like to see the implementation of Extruct, please let me know. (contact info at http://blog.gahooa.com/ under "About Me")

"Cross-platform support (Python, Java, C#, C++, Ruby, Perl)"

Too bad this criteria is first. The intent behind most languages is to express fundamental data structures and processing differently. That's what makes multiple languages a "problem": they're all different.

A single representation that's good across many languages is generally impossible. There are compromises in richness of the representation, performance or ambiguity.

JSON meets the remaining criteria nicely. Messages are compact and parse quickly (unlike XML). Nesting is handled nicely. Changing structure without breaking code is always iffy -- if you remove something, old code will break. If you change something that was required, old code will break. If you're adding things, however, JSON handles this also.

I like human-readable. It helps with a lot of debugging and trouble-shooting.

The subtlety of having Python tuples turn into lists isn't an interesting problem. The receiving application already knows the structure being received, and can tweak it up (if it matters.)


Edit on performance.

Parsing the XML and JSON documents from http://developers.de/blogs/damir_dobric/archive/2008/12/27/performance-comparison-soap-vs-json-wcf-implementation.aspx

xmlParse 0.326 jsonParse 0.255

JSON appears to be significantly faster for the same content. I used the Python SimpleJSON and ElementTree modules in Python 2.5.2.

You might be interested into this link :

http://kbyanc.blogspot.com/2007/07/python-serializer-benchmarks.html

An alternative : MessagePack seems to be the fastest serializer out there. Maybe you can give it a try.

Hessian meets all of your requirements. There is a python library here:

https://github.com/bgilmore/mustaine

The official documentation for the protocol can be found here:

http://hessian.caucho.com/

I regularly use it in both Java and Python. It works and doesn't require writing protocol definition files. I couldn't tell you how the Python serializer performs, but the Java version is reasonably efficient:

https://github.com/eishay/jvm-serializers/wiki/

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